tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29868932.post7563519941465086882..comments2024-02-14T22:50:48.749+10:30Comments on Bill Kerr: Raymond Lister's paperBill Kerrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00206808014093631762noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29868932.post-21215589043810519742008-07-27T13:11:00.000+09:302008-07-27T13:11:00.000+09:30thanks arti,the pieces at matthew's blog about my ...thanks arti,<BR/><BR/>the pieces at matthew's blog about my friend <A HREF="http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/07/23/quick-hits-hillsborough-county-everyday-antiracism-and-stephen-krashen-worship/" REL="nofollow">gary stager's one liners </A> and about <A HREF="http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/07/22/your-principal-probably-isnt-very-sharp/" REL="nofollow">principal's not grasping maths </A> were valuable and challenging, so I see what you mean :-)Bill Kerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00206808014093631762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29868932.post-66668788160981204802008-07-27T12:39:00.000+09:302008-07-27T12:39:00.000+09:30I left this comment on Mark Guzdial's blog:[quote...I left <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/post/PLNKTO1X5WLIUUWM/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?ie=UTF8&cdForum=FxMZJ2W5XCUIKM&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx19MQLWBJCHWAO&newContentID=Mx2M58888YUOGGF#Mx2M58888YUOGGF" REL="nofollow">this comment </A> on Mark Guzdial's blog:<BR/><BR/>[quote]<BR/>Raymond Lister's paper misrepresents constructivism as just problem solving, in part, by taking its definition from Cognitive load theory. More here:<BR/>http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2008/07/raymond-listers-paper.html<BR/><BR/>To teach algebra by just giving students problems, walking away and letting them struggle with it? I'm not aware of anyone suggesting that.<BR/><BR/>Improve the quality of worked examples? Possibly, everyone would agree with that. Constructionism recommends minimising instruction, not doing away with it entirely.<BR/><BR/>The typical low level instructionist paradigm would be for the teacher to rely on the worked examples and then set problems out of a text book<BR/><BR/>A constructionist example could be to explore line gradients using logo, eg. how could you emulate these line gradient using logo and then connect that up to the linear equation in some way.<BR/><BR/>The point I'm making is that a real discussion of the issues does not connect very well to the valid but restricted points of Cognitive Load theorists, that our working memories are limited. The constructionist response to that is, take your time, learn it in mind size bites.<BR/>[/quote]Bill Kerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00206808014093631762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29868932.post-20361359854149172072008-07-27T06:22:00.000+09:302008-07-27T06:22:00.000+09:30Bill you might enjoy the Matthew Tabor's Blog (if ...Bill you might enjoy the <A HREF="http://www.matthewktabor.com/" REL="nofollow">Matthew Tabor's Blog</A> (if you don't already read it) his ability to critique ideas reminds me a lot of the intellectual honesty in your postsartichokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15926940379668541109noreply@blogger.com