tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29868932.post115848150543039973..comments2024-02-14T22:50:48.749+10:30Comments on Bill Kerr: eat your own dogfoodBill Kerrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00206808014093631762noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29868932.post-1158583931584903142006-09-18T22:22:00.000+09:302006-09-18T22:22:00.000+09:30thanks lynetteI'm not surprised that a really help...thanks lynette<BR/><BR/>I'm not surprised that a really helpful suggestion for measuring group work in computing has come from a drama teacher<BR/><BR/>With my year 12s last year I got them to present their games to the class and that led to some discussions about the process of making them<BR/><BR/>I like your idea of a panel and the way it is composed but it is going to be hard to fit it all into the one semester year 11 course - game maker skills, design and make game, record process in blogs, wikis and then a panel presentation as well. I think the blogs and wikis could provide some valuable material along the way to the panel presentation and having that as an endpoint would give the whole process more point as well<BR/><BR/>great idea, thanks againBill Kerrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00206808014093631762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29868932.post-1158580993162034842006-09-18T21:33:00.000+09:302006-09-18T21:33:00.000+09:30I completely agree with the idea behind your analo...I completely agree with the idea behind your analogy of "eat your own dog food". It sounds like the process has been a valuable learning experience in your case.<BR/><BR/>I am a drama teacher and often "eat my own dog food" alongside the students, and sometimes out of the same bowl when I work with them to workshop scripts and rehearse scenes. The majority of the work I do is group work, and I am often involved in the collaborative processes involved in performance. <BR/><BR/>I was prompted by your comment "It is so hard for school to measure group work. Everyone knows that it is important but there is a measurement problem." and wish to offer a suggestion: I have found that presentation panels are quite effective in measuring students learning from major group tasks. In the context I have used them, I get individuals to present to a panel (comprising of the teacher, a peer and at times a second staff member chosen by the student). Students need to present their product and then discuss the process/es they undertook toward the development of the final piece. Students are asked to discuss how they collaborated with others throughout the development of the project, how their ideas developed and any problem solving that was undertaken toward the development of the final product. When students have been actively involved in the project they are able to do this quite easily, if they have tagged along it becomes evident.Lynettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11611552305471389081noreply@blogger.com